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The cases is its own individual case. and the allegations are different for people, president trump boasted on video about sexually assaulting women and denied the allegations against him. al franken, there is a picture of him and impossible for him not to admit it. i think you will see a senate ethics process move forward there and i think there is still a lot for the political world and the rest of the country to deal with in terms of reckoning with what is going on. >> and al franken did ask for an investigation and i think you were head nodding into his very own behavior. laura, some would...

For team red. >> michelle, kind of struck limping lim listening to the briefing. sarah huckabee suggested president trump shouldn't be investigated, because he denied the allegations against him. but franken should be because he fessed up to them? >> you could say neither side has the moral high ground. i argue the democrats, while imperfect, have the high ground. look at the difference to a very different set of allegations. i would be the first to condemn what al frank didn't in the photograph and said i'm not sure he should survive in the senate because of it, but it's nowhere on the scale ...

Accusers. you know, this is what women experience and i think that we are in a different kind of environment but not so different. i mean, i worry, frankly, about the ethics process. i served on the house ethics committee. i know that it can be a long, drawn out process. it's in secret. the deck is, you know, in some ways stacked against the victims and the accusers. and so, i think that we really have to deal with this and how offensive for the president of the united states to send out a tweet about al franken given that he is the man who was on tape grabbing at women. i mean, it is so deepl...

They know women are going to be believed. if any statement comes out that provokes those accusers to come out and speak again, i believe those women would get a very different hearing in this environment than they did in october of 2016. >> and some still filing a lawsuit. still out there. >> right. >> what happens to prank franke though? you have the picture, shows him acting inappropriately. a photo all over social media and newscasts. never going to go away. can he survive this with an apologetic statement and then a -- an ethics investigation? >> well, look -- >> should he survive this? >>...

Look past what, as amber said, as detailed and specific an allegation as you can get. look, i think from the point of view of the senate republicans there is a self-interest question here beyond the moral question, which is if he wins in december, which i don't think is guaranteed after this, i think that, you know, it's not as though he is 20 points ahead, it's not inconceivable he could lose, if he wins they will have to deal with the question of how do they deal with him as a sitting senator and how -- do they simply try to walk past these allegations, have no ethics process, no investigati...