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That commitments are respected. well... and that should be our starting point. hang on. that allusion of yours to what's happening in russia, ukraine would be relevant if you viewed boris johnson with the same sort of suspicion that the european union and, indeed, the british government view vladimir putin. if that's the nature of the suspicious, hostile relationship that you're dealing with... i didn't say that. ..fine. i didn't say that. well, in that case, that allusion, frankly, doesn't take us very far. no, it takes us very far, because in a moment like this, it is particularly important ...

That commitments are respected. well... and that should be our starting point. hang on. that allusion of yours to what's happening in russia, ukraine would be relevant if you viewed boris johnson with the same sort of suspicion that the european union and, indeed, the british government view vladimir putin. if that's the nature of the suspicious, hostile relationship that you're dealing with... i didn't say that. ..fine. i didn't say that. well, in that case, that allusion, frankly, doesn't take us very far. no, it takes us very far, because in a moment like this, it is particularly important ...

So there's an almost total overlapping between the two. that's my point — nato calls the shots here, not the european union. let me say about what president putin achieved. reinforcement of nato, strengthening of the transatlantic alliance, our cooperation with the us, our cooperation with the uk in this field, which is...should be...should inspire us, by the way, to deal with other issues and the unity inside the union. so we have strengthened our mechanisms. on eu—nato, my point is very simple. one complements the other. there is no opposition there. joao vale de almeida, we have to end ...

But let me give you... well, hang on, let me stop you there because you said some important things and, if i may say so, the most fundamental point of all is your contention that the northern ireland protocol does notjeopardise the good friday agreement. but the good friday agreement, fundamentally, is about cooperation between the two different views within northern ireland of its future — that is the unionist view and the nationalist, republican view. the good friday agreement only works if both sides are brought on board, and right now your protocol is rejected by the unionists. it's not....

For ukraine, is in danger of "creating false expectations." he clearly, like macron just a few weeks ago, thinks that there is no chance of ukraine actually becoming a member of the eu for decades. the leaders will pronounce themselves this week, european council would hear the opinion and consider the opinion of the commission. i think all the indications point to a positive direction. but who am i to say what our leaders will decide? but i think what's already been done, if you take the position of the european commission, if you take the position of a number of leaders in europe and what yo...