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Applying the brakes very late in the game, that seems to be a recipe for danger. >> no question about it. trains don't stop very quickly. you put the brakes on now and you stop quite a distance down the track. so putting the brakes on that late brake application coming six seconds or five seconds prior to the locomotive coming to a stop, that's way too late. so now the focus is going to be on what the operator was doing, was he on his cell phone, which we find often to be a factor in these types of accidents, or if there was other mechanical failure where he called for the application of brake...

>> by the time i looked up it was completely going off its track and there was the rubble flying at my face. >> reporter: only 1700 feet away from a previous july derailment where ten garbage freight cars flipped on their sides. >> we don't know what the train speed was. we will learn that from the vehicle event recorders. >> reporter: this is the second passenger train derailment in six months for metro north. in may, an eastbound train derailed in bridgeport, connecticut, and was hit by a westbound train. 76 people were injured. sunday's crash eerily similar to the train that derailed in spa...

Anything they need. when they are finished with their investigation we will proceed accordingly. thank you. >> the name of the operator? >> governor --. >> governor --. >> the questions are still being shouted at the news conference with governor cuomo. did i hear another question? >> the curve speed limit is 30 miles per hour at that curve. there is a 70 miles per hour zone just ahead of it, a 75 zone ahead of that. we do not know what the train speed was. we will learn that from the vehicle event recorders. incidentally, we have recovered the event roared off the cab car and downloaded the d...

Alive and well in the hospital, but is expected to survive and be fine. i take it a big piece of this investigation and one big help to it will be the fact that so many survivors are there to give their account of what actually happened. >> absolutely. yeah, that is just as important as the evidence that they're going to be able to collect there at the scene, is just what did people see, what did people hear, what did people feel. again, any little piece of information helps them piece together this picture because, as we established earlier, those event recorders that are located on these tra...

They're going to be in gathering what they called perishable evidence. >> right. so tyrese said the ntsb got there about 12:30 this afternoon and this they are really in a race against time because they want to collect as much evidence before the sun goes down, which we just saw there, it is pretty dark already. here's what they're going to be focusing on. they have teams that are broken off into different groups. they specialize in different things. you listed some of them, the track team, which will look at the condition of the track. that's going to be pretty important to see if there are a...