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Businesses, he still is fighting for attorney/client privilege with cohen. one thing is clear, michael cohen had very deep ties to donald trump. >> i asked him if there was something that would perhaps make him stray away from this public persona as an incredibly loyal figure in donald trump's life. the response he gave back to me was that he would take a bullet for the president. when he said it, he sounded like he meant it. >> if evidence gathered leads to charges and cohen is convicted, he could ultimately face prison time. that has president trump, his inner circle and many other observers...

For attorney/client privilege with cohen. one thing is clear, michael cohen had very deep ties to donald trump. >> i asked him if there was something that would perhaps make him stray away from this public persona as an incredibly loyal figure in donald trump's life. the response he gave back to me was that he would take a bullet for the president. when he said it, he sounded like he meant it. >> if evidence gathered leads to charges and cohen is convicted, he could ultimately face prison time. that has president trump, his inner circle and many other observers asking a simple question. >> cou...

Trump and seems to relish in being his fixer, his go-to guy, his ray donovan, as he calls himself. kind of ridiculously. look, everybody flips, right? basically, everybody -- >> the mueller m.o. >> right. if federal prosecutors have something on you, and they want you to tell them something, they will get you -- they'll get you to tell it. they have -- federal prosecutor is about the most powerful person in the country in terms of what he can do to your life. >> who was it, was it chuck colson if you grab them by the what, the hearts and minds will follow. >> they grab them by all the tender p...

>> it's so extraordinary to go into a lawyer's office it happen. it's unusual. it's northern unusual it's extraordinary. and the president's lawyer i'd be surprised if they didn't have a much higher bar and that magistrate dnts have a higher bar. but i think advice that the president gets is -- it's true. you remember the rem song everybody hurts. everybody flips. now we know everybody leaks. because if we're on magic box we're realen you can listen to us, mr. president. it's extraordinary. because we're all -- all of this i think the advice -- he is getting this, it presume criminal conduct u...

I would disagree with the people who say that everybody flips. i mean i've been representing people in federal criminal cases for 24 years now, and not everybody flips. there are a lot of people who were willing to go ahead go to trial. if they're not guilty, great. if they're guilty they'll go ahead and serve their time. they don't want to turn on somebody for personal reasons or the benefits aren't that great. i mean michael cohen would have to get a sweet deal i think for him to be willing to turn on the president when the president has really been his livelihood for so many years. so i thi...