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This is what kevin mccarthy said about it this evening. >> did you listen to it? everybody laughs. you know it's a bad attempt at a joke. and that's all there is to it. no one believes it to be true. from any straight stretch or form. >> joining us now, the reporter who broke this story, obtained that secret audio, adam entis. he writes about the national security intelligence for "the washington post". adam, we are unable to hear the recording apparently, but you have heard it. is there a reason you haven't released the recording? >> the source which basically let us listen to the recording h...

We often set up as dichotomies, i would actually argue that they are connected. to me, if you look at 1984, there was the question of the age issue. reagan had had a disastrous first debate in part because he was trying to correct not knowing enough facts. reagan was drilled with a number of facts and statics and reagan sort of lost his way in the first debate with walter mondale. everybody laughs, including mondale, and moves on without ever actually questioning the under lying fact of the fact that he was at that point 73, 74 years old. we talked about president bush in 1992. george w. bush ...

Anticipation that on the other side of it, there's a real scarcity. when people look at their kids, right, there was a time in the post-war boom years when there was an expectation if you checked the boxes and did the right thing there was going to be a good sustainable middle class job and career and a possibility of a house and maybe a second home for your kid. right now i think there's a conception that parents have, it's not wrong, there's a shrinking group of outcomes at the end of this process that will be -- give people kind of sustainable life. >> if you come from a middle class family...

Air. i do tend to take the view that he's a comedian, so he gets more latitude. if he's going to put himself out there as a progressive and claim that he cares about women's rights, then yeah he's going to be held to that standard. people want to say that michelle bachmann and sarah palin are bimboes. he's just giving voice to what a lot of liberals say. they just don't say it on the air. i don't support them. i can tell that you is ridiculous. >> greta: he hides behind the comedian, everybody laughs. there are many great comedians like seinfeld. he never demeaned women. you don't have to go t...

>> greta: i heard him on a television show the other night lamenting about things happening to women in afghanistan. the conversation with the other person was surprising as well. nonetheless. >> you learn something new everyday. way that he seems to talk about at least sarah palin this isn't the first thing he has said about her that is offensive. what he said before was something we can't say on the air. i do tend to take the view that he's a comedian, so he gets more latitude. if he's going to put himself out there as a progressive and claim that he cares about women's rights, then yeah he'...