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>> christian tradition is that peter was crucified upside down, because he didn't think he was worthy to be crucified in the exact way that jesus was. >> strange when i think of peter hanging upside down. the force of gravity pulling everythi everything, with his blood rushing into his brain. with life not seeping out of him, but pounding its way through his body. >> he's probably hoping that he'll soon be reunited with jesus, his best friend. and the one to whom he's committed his whole life. >> catholic tradition says that peter's body is then removed

The point is when you go there, you see that so many people who have relatives over in america want to build our relations between the two country. >> one final question on this. the cubans are are very concerned that the hostility that they're sensing from the state department and the white house on this, olding themsel s themselves. they' they're. that would really freeze everythi everything. you look at the fact that north korea isn't even on there, and i don't see this when you can't prove someone else did it, and you have other suspects just in terms of things being thrown out

>> there is a tendency for somebody who is, who is naturally funny, as chevy is to try and get lapsed by standing there and ad libbing when somebody sells trying to talk. >> that's right. >> the movie studios went from helping us to hating us, to fearing us. >> circulations of all of the newspaper critics and all of the magazines could not match the reach of the show at its height. it became quite clear very often that the film companies cared a lot about roger and gene seeing it, but not so much about the rest of us. >> two thumb's up became everything for a big hollywood movie. back when mov...

>> i always worked on newspapers. there was a persistent need, not only to write, but to publish. in grade school, i wrote and published the washington street news. which i solemnly delivered to neighbors in illinois, as if it existed independently of me. but the news gazette, a lineo type operator sent it in lead, but robert ebert, i was electrified. >> and i went home, you could take a stamp pad and put your byline on everything. my parents had to take it away from me. everything was by roger ebert. >> and i went to work full time for the local newspaper when i was 15 versus a sports writer....

Of work. he's been writing for half the history of feature films. and that's just one slice of the cake. a novel in weekly installments, just like dickens. not quite of that level. i wrote a book about how to keep your computer bug-free, strolls through london. a book about the cannes film festival. >> roger had everything he needed. gene was just afraid that at some point roger would go it alone and quit. >> and this literally haunted gene. when the next contract would come up, would roger not be there? >> joann tello just sat down and did the math. in syndication, we can put commercials arou...