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That this could give them access to. >> yes. >> in essence, the ruling by judge howell means that the special counsel's office will now be privy to conversations between one of donald trump's lawyers, evan corcoran, and donald trump himself, leading up to this now infamous statement where the lawyers tell the doj, you've got everything back, the classified material has all been returned, when in fact it was not. and that evidence could be very damaging to the former president. the ruling that you're talking about itself is a very interesting one. it's the ruling that gets the prosecution team ...

Trouble. you could have them, you know, charged, you could have them investigated and the d.o.j., they want assurances now that what happened last night is not going to happen again, that they're not going to do this again. and trump's team has been unwilling to do that. so there has been mounting frustration for the last six or seven months with the d.o.j. that has culminated in this moment where they say we want you to be held in contempt of court, and a blanket certification that we have given everything back, and former president's team has not been willing to do that. >> the former presid...

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In recent weeks. so after 18 months of efforts by the federal government after the fbi's search of mar-a-lago the doj believes he still hasn't turned over everything he was supposed to. the big question is, in all of this is, what is he trying to hide? cnn's senior legal analyst laura coats. after all this back and forth between the federal government and trump's team to get everything back, even after the fbi's search at mar-a-lago, the doj still doesn't think that they have got everything. i mean, this keeps growing. >> i mean, isn't it stunning to think about? the big question of course is ...

Archives, turning over all the records that were in question. have you given us everything back? and lawyers and colleagues of donald trump we felt that he was, essentially, taunting the department of justice, he was making decisions that ultimately led to this search at his home, instead of just turning over the records, which would've been fairly easy to do. i will also say, there's a very big problem, there are good lawyers working for donald trump, but some of them are now potentially compromised. legal experts that we've spoken to have said that lawyers who try to assert to the department...