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Who want the symbolism of saying we'll shut everything down, we can break this but you will break the whole government and i think hurt the republican party pigging up on charlie's point because politically whenever the government gets shut down in these kind of episodes it is republicans that bear the brunt of the blame. jon: doesn't seem like there is appetite for that even in washington where a lot of crazy things happen. juan williams, charlie hirt. thank you both. >> you're welcome, jon. jenna: we first heard he want ad military strike on syria and now the president is giving diplomacy a ...

The death penalty, that this guy is trying to make sure he gets there by ineffectively representing himself. should we care? >> bottom line, he wants a death penalty, shut everything down, give it to him, let the victims load up on guns, let the relatives do the honors. >> what's a shame. >> is that on libertarian island? >> this whole thing, we're trying him for 14 victims of murder and 32 victims, no one had a gun in the area, had to check guns at the door before they went in. had they had firearms on, it may be one or none. >> and he knew that. he knew it was a gun free zone. >> it was a gu...

Though is that tray's killer doesn't continue to walk free as if he did nothing wrong. >> all right. once again we're going to be bringing in wendy murphy and anne bremner. let's look at some of the legalities at play here. a big question is obviously going to be whether or not george zimmerman needed to do what he did that night to save his life. i mean, when you finally boil everything down, that's what the jury has to agree on, right? wendy, let's start with you. how do you see that question shaping up after everything we've heard? >> yeah. chris, i actually think you misstated the legal st...

Idea. >> what happens is sometimes you've got two microphones, so it might be a little confusing. could you just either move or -- that's all right. just get close. you're doing fine. you have to get close to the microphone so everybody can hear you, especially this lady here in front. she's taking everything down, so she needs to be able to hear you. and did he then say something was happening? >> yeah, he said the man kept watching him. >> okay. tell us what happened then. >> as he was telling me -- he kept complaining that man was just watching him, and i just said how the man looked like -...

Rest of my life. >> preston says he was questioned for two hours. he left the meeting and wrote everything down, including the time he went in and the time he left. which is why giuliano mignini's recollection of that meeting with preston is so puzzling. >> translator: it lasted about 20 minutes. no more than that. and it was the first time i had met preston. around 20 minutes. >> i interviewed doug preston, and that is just not true according to him. he said the interrogation lasted two hours. >> translator: i don't remember now how long he was interviewed for. i believe it was about 20 minut...