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And even if you have this collateral damage and jason is absolutely right, wisconsin is a divided political state but the one thing we all believe in is football and the green bay packers. donald trump has used his divisive tactics and taken it into our sunday. this imething he thinks he can win on this issue, he's comfortable with the cultural war issues. by the way, memo to the nfl or anybody else who is targeted in a donald trump culture war. you notice that appeasement does not work. gracious surrender does not get you what you want. he sees that as a sign of weakness and he doubles down. ...

To believe what bill belichick says. the eagles represent everything that the president has tried to fight against, politically active black men, white men working together to solve structural issues in this country and still winning. >> jason, i know neither charlie nor i hate that you pointed that out about the patriots. charlie, last word goes to you. r last pointhat this is samd at the base and they will kind of ride along on this, this is a big calculation, for everything jason just said, for what we're losing, forer norm that has fallen. >> yeah. there's a certain amount of risk, though,...

Structural issues in this country and still winning. >> jason, i know neither charlie nor i hate that you pointed that out about the patriots. charlie, last word goes to you. to your last point that this is aimed at the base and they will kind of ride along on this, this is a big calculation, for everything jason just said, for what we're losing, for another no that has fallen. >> yeah. there's a certain amount of risk, though, for donald trump because, as jason pointed out, a lot of these players do give back to the community. they're very, very popular. and so this is not just taking on any ...