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Exchange before? >> i've never heard about this tape before or this tape before. i have never heard of it before and the public never did. you have to remember the whole basis of rallying from day one, anthony shahid and others when i got in there right away, was hands up, don't shoot. it's absurd to say this was a hostile thief, pusheded a man and he reached for the cop's gun hours later and now we see a kid that was not hostile at all, whether he was dealing with marijuana or not which changes the whole narrative about what the public was told. >> would it have even been hostile even if he w...

Thank you for joining us. very much appreciate it. before we talk i want to give a few points to the audience to warn them of what they're going to see. the footage has not been authenticated by the st. louis county police and it's been edited by the filmmaker and we can't confirm how he got it in the first place. jay, i'll start with you. what is your reaction to the claim that marijuana is being traded for the cigarillos and they were not stolen by michael brown? >> well, first of all, i hate to throw water on a big story for the news media, but this is neither new nor news. this video has b...

I think that's also why these questions are being raised. reverend jake hansler, thank you very much for joining us. i want to bring in reverend al sharpton host of msnbc's host of "politics nation" and with the action network. you saw the video and what is your reaction to what he had to say? >> as you know, i was involved with this case and worked with the parents of michael brown and still do, and in fact, preached at his funeral so i was there when -- within 48 hours of him being killed and called by the family. the thing, i think, that raises real serious questions about this video being ...

>> we've seen a lot of good interviews, don't you think? >> everybody is sort of trying to score the one that will reveal trump. but there is a different problem which is that he can take any really tough interview and blow it up and make a media circus out of that. >> do you agree with that? the idea that trump -- it's almost like when we were doing our function, we're checking these candidates, we're challenging them, and yet trump sometimes takes those challenges, runs with them, takes them as an advantage and uses them to build up his own stature. >> i agree with everything jay said. it's ...