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And i asked her, what's changed? he still knows where your children are. he still knows how to get to them. he could still hurt them. >> reporter: and her answer? >> she just looked at me. >> everything i've told you is the truth. >> but you lied the first time we talked. >> yes, i did. >> the second time we talked. >> the second time we talked i did not lie to you. after i was arrested, i did not lie to you. i told you i didn't do it. that wasn't a lie. i told you that he did. >> reporter: he was jermeir stroud. shannon's story made him the guilty party, but her story also badly needed to be ...

Here. >> i didn't know what he had done, and i didn't know what he was going to do to me. >> reporter: it's often considered risky for a murder defendant to take the stand. but shannon crawley insisted on telling her story that she was a victim and not a killer. >> how do you know now that jermeir did it? >> well, for one he's told me since that he did. >> and you're trying to tell the jury that then you had no idea what might have just happened there? >> i didn't see anyone. >> just to hear how she presented the information, her poise and her demeanor and all that kind of stuff, she's a credi...

>> i told them that i'm more than willing to look at anything they have if they want to bring me something. but i can't just accept her word for it. that's the problem i'm having, i need some kind of proof to back her up. >> reporter: so the prosecutor challenged shannon, bring me proof. he could not have imagined what was coming next. sex. lies. and audiotape. and maybe shannon crawley's ticket to freedom. a killer conversation. >> i spent four months in jail because of you, because you lied. >> i told you to shut the [ bleep ] up. >> now says shannon's father there's no question his daughter...

-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com an historic and stunning showdown is under way right now between the obama administration and federal judges. a three-member appeals panel all republican appointees has taken issue with the president's jawboning of the u.s. supreme court over the health care reform law. now an unusual demand from those judges is putting a lot of heat from the justice department in washington. brian todd is following this battle for us. brian, what's going on? >> reporter: one seasoned court analyst says federal judges almost never do this kind of thing. whether...