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Kind of like a weird mccarthyism. he's in collusion with the russians, the russians control the government. it seems like we've been here before. >> tom: we have, everything old is new again. cathy, i'm going to go away into the end of the table here. what do you think of his music? >> with glenn stephani, it was a huge hit. >> tom: he's out collaborator. >> maybe he's right, maybe the intel is right, maybe moby is onto something. >> tom: we're laughing about him, maybe he doesn't know some thing. what if he's smarter than mike baker? >> he has 2.4 million followers, today he did say that he's...

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And it's local. you don't have to travel to do it. you put all this together, it's a pretty resilient business model. >> everything old can be new again, especially if you know how to keep things fresh and relevant. let's go to this week's board of directors. reinvention could be jerry silverman's middle name. he is the founder and ceo of the company corporate turnaround. and joining us again is investment adviser phil town, author of "the new york times" best-selling book "payback time." great to see you. >> you, too. >> they do great marketing because even from this piece, it made me think, ...

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