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Probably broke even. >> ken, is it your opinion he helped bob mueller or not? >> i think there is the potential. in terms of the impact of the investigation, if mueller didn't want this to happen, really put his foot down, it wouldn't have happened. it's not that these words are going to interfere with the investigation, but the damage that he may have done to his credibility, as you say, going to the size of donald trump's hands and the color of his skin and just appearing to be cashing in, i agree with everything rick said. susan collins is raising a fair question. to the extent he is a cruc...

>> nunes was coming out publicly with allegations to make the president look bad, then the democrats would be celebrating. you don't have to come to the committee first. if you want to go to the cameras and say anything negative at all -- >> do you wish as chairman of the intelligence committee, which historically has been bipartisan, the last vestige of bipartisanship in washington -- >> i admree with everything rick just said. and he's absolutely right in his analysis. i want to point out how this would have pointed out if devin went out with something that makes the president look bad. >> w...

The chairman of the intelligence committee, that has been the last vestige of bipartisanship. >> i agree with everything rick just said. absolutely right in his analysis. i want to point out how this would have actually played out if devin was going out with something that makes the president look bad. >> okay. fair enough. >> undermines the credibility of that committee, period. >> thank you, everybody. appreciate it. after the break, can something as simple as a meal help bridge the racial divide. the answer might surprise you. i am totally blind.