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If it is only in one house and not in the other. >> so michael, forgive me for bringing up my experience again, but i remember my floor's speech on impeachment when everybody was saying it was a coup, i said -- it was around christmas, i said, you know what? america is not grinding to a halt because what we're doing in washington tonight, you know, people are going out and christmas shopping, families are in front of tvs. they're, you know -- i think i even said at 30 rock people around the christmas tree. this is part of a constitutional process. >> absolutely. >> this is something -- this is...

And bob costa, i know you've talked to a lot of people at the white house. he may be whistling past the graf ya graveyard, but man, this really stings donald j. trump. >> based on my reporting, that letter was drafted by him in coordination with some of his confidants. that was a letter from president trump. you called it a tweet on paper. his associates described it to me as a trump rally on paper, a letter that essentially lays out his entire 2020 campaign, grievance politics, running against the establishment, running against the democratic party. yet as much as he and his republican allies...

The members of the senate who already said how they feel, you would also get resideid of the democrats running for president. the problem is we have a system that operates under the assumption we're dealing with noble statesman, and we're not, we're dealing with a bunch of partisan hacks at this point. >> i guess to your point, this happened during the clinton impeachment, and you can point back to the clinton impeachment and to bill clinton for a lot of why we are here today on every level including trump being president. but this process is to assess whether or not the president has done som...

Impeachment is about the merits of the case, ask if president trump does not go through this process of impeachment, what is the message then to other countries that might be looking at interfering in future elections whether it's russia or china or india or iran. you know with your intelligence hat on that this is happening right now and is going to happen in the future again. are you hoping to some extent that by going through this process you're stayiaying we ta this seriously? >> i am, and you know, there are any number of vignettes within the whole ukraine trail that really are telling to...