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Speak. he didn't speak like that when he was mayor. >> true. >> he was candid and he was new york but -- >> in some wa many ways, they're the same person, right? remember rudy giuliani would go on these radio shows and he knew how to use the media, manipulate the media. they both had issues with ex-wives, they both were on page 6 all the time. and they both, you know, are bigger than life people. they're not receding into the shadows and it's the perfect -- if donald trump can't literally be his own communications director for the legal issues, then this is the next best thing. >> and there's ...

With the president, giving him an opportunity to tell his side of the story before mueller either has to issue a grand jury subpoena and force him to take the fifth amendment if he's not willing to cooperate or two write a report to congress that didn't include the president's side of the story. so he is giving every opportunity even showing him some of the questions in advance to get him to corporate. >> and ned price, would you tell him to sit down with bob mule letter? >> i would tell him absolutely not. nothing good can come of that. >> all right. thank you so much. an exclusive report a...

A meeting, he will say hold on, there is a lady present. which is again reflective of an old view. we all now live and work in work with places where we can all swear equally, right? >> i certainly join in. >> we're from philly. and so his views on women really shocked some people. and -- or just the things that would come out of his mouth. we spoke to a number of people who said that there is no filter. >> and if the way he thinks is rob porter's ex-wives really need to move on and he looked forward to the moment when he could restore rob porter's honor, put that in one category. that he thin...

But it's not just that, chris. it's some of the comments he has made about women. it's really surprised some of the female staffers here, in some instances talking about the fact that women are more emotional than men during the rob porter scandal. of course he is the staff secretary who was ousted after allegations by two ex-wives of abuse which he denies. but john kelly talking about the fact that he hopes his reputation can be restored. that's another moment that really roiled some of the female staffers here. so what you're witnessing, chris, is the president's relationship with his chief ...

Nonpolitically. it did not do that with mike pompeo. >> isn't the issue -- many of the people are -- >> it's always the issue, but look they did to jackson. they take things that are completely false, turn them into huge stories on the media, on the left, and people get their reputations destroyed. vince foster said it best. he said around here destroying people's lives is a sport. when it becomes that in the united states senate, when the senate becomes politicized on political appointments, the u.s. has the power to stop any president from running a government effectively. >> is it the democ...