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Quote, unquote, some training or similar training or likes the police or has a title of reserve or auction sillry or anything else. there is tactical training. there is whole examination process, perhaps psychological interviews. not everyone who wants to be the police should be treated as if they are the police regardless if their friend is the sheriff or not. and the explanations coming forth are extremely troubling and detrimental to the well being of professional law enforcement. it's inexcusable and the sheriff really should be ashamed of himself. >> there are also mandatory retirement ag...

Public going after jurors when that's our system. if now if we start having a system where jurors are intimidated to sit on a jury or they're going to make decisions based upon public opinion, we're going to hell in a hand basket in our country and our democracy quickly. >> absolutely. i couldn't agree with you more. >> thank you. >> particularly highly visible publicized juries that are being -- that jurors are really out front and out centered. but i also worry, too, the other side of that is that i don't want jurors really trying to get on a jury, maybe not being completely truthful in the ...

The evidence will start to come out in future hearings, but based on what we do know, do you think this case will go to trial based on him being incompetent or possibly even a plea deal? do you think that will be possibly on the table? >> these cases take a very long time. i would not be surprised if we are having conversations about this a year from now. especially when there are psychiatric issues, the examination process can take months. it is easy to say, we know who did it, but when we try to figure out the mind of the person who did it, that's evidence not left at the scene of the crime....

Different. the human voice is like a symphony. like mr. owen just said, there's characteristics that every human being has that differentiates us, just like a fingerprint point. and in this case, there were two people at the scene. and forensic low speaking, unless there was somebody else there, i think we know who that voice is. >> now, let me ask both of you this. i just had catherine cryer and zack carter on. and they said this would have to be auto thhenticateauthenticate. you both have testified in court and have had to do these kind of testimonies at trials, is that correct? >> yes, sir....