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Interviews. per white house instruction, she skipped monday's hearing where she was scheduled to testify about these allegations. in a letter to the committee, the white house counsel claimed, quote, ms. conway cannot be compelled to testify before congress with with respect to matters related to her service as a senior adviser to the president. the chairman scheduled a july 25 vote to hold her in the house oversight committee promised to hold her in contempt with congress if she refused to testify. with us, former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan, barbara mcquade, and barb, ...

Decision to terminate comey could be the end of the presidency. on monday, her turn to testify before the house comes up. will she show up? will she talk. also stone walling, does that give nadler more fire power. great to have you with us. the house judiciary chairman is saying the answers they were not provided with is foder for an argument that the white house shouldn't argue with this immunity or executive privilege over these questions. >> yes, they had to go through that to establish a an executive

Forcing the disclosure of that. there is room. >> there might be national security issues and things not suitable for the public domain? >> yes. i worry about using the executive privilege over everything will make other things meaningless. president trump says i'm fighting all the subpoenas and refuse to answer anything, it really loses credibility when he does try to assert it. >> assess house chairman nadler's chances. how does this work and what happens? >> i think there is a strong likelihood the committee prevails on this argument. the idea that executive immunity has been addressed by j...

>> yes. what i worry is using executive privilege over everything, then it will be rendered meaningless down the road. it is something that's important to use judiciously, selectively. when president trump says i'm fighting all the subpoenas, i'm refusing to answer anything, it really loses credibility when he does try to assert it. >> assess house chairman jerry nadler's chances. how does this work as he sues, as he goes to court, and what happens? >> i think there is a very strong likelihood that the committee prevails on this argument. this idea of immunity, executive immunity has been addr...

Not provided with is fodder for an argument that the white house shouldn't argue for this immunity or this executive privilege over some of these questions. >> yes. they had to go through that exercise yesterday, i think, to establish the record that the white house was indeed going to invoke this idea of executive immunity, it's important to explain what that is. >> it's a difference between privilege and immunity? >> it is. it's a degree even greater than executive privilege. what they're saying there is a witness doesn't have to answer any single question at all. the mere fact that they wer...