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Constitution which talks about the powers of congress. in fact, the exact language gives the power of regulating the census to congress. it shall be done in such manner as congress by law shall direct. there already are congressional statutes on the books governing the census process. it seems a pretty hard stretch to say the president would be able to invoke his article 2 executive powers and simply ignore and bypass those congressional statutes. i think an executive order going in a different direction on the census at the last minute would not be viewed favorably by the courts. >> alicia: h...

Questions about whether or not he thinks it was treason. he didn't flat out say no. he essentially said not in the legal sense of the word. i don't know if there's another sense of the word. treason, again, i think he is showing that he is president trump's lawyer. and this idea that, you know -- of course he doesn't regret taking the job, he basically campaigned for the job. he had this whole memo, you know, talking about the investigation and why he thought it shouldn't happen. his idea of executive powers being very expansive. so, yeah, he is in exactly the position he wants to be, he's alw...

I think the unraveling of this shows it's a mistake. putting a president on trial would be an undo interference with his executive powers, but indicting would clarify the circumstance. in defense of the policy of mueller, mueller wants you to know that whether something is technically a crime has little to do with whether it ought to be the kind of wrongdoing which should lead to impeachment, which is more profound. >> i thought his use of that word, it's only congress that can formally accuse a president of wrongdoing, accuse a president of wrongdoing, was an interesting choice of words. not ...

I think the unraveling of this shows it's a mistake. putting a president on trial would be an undo interference with his executive powers, but indicting would clarify the circumstance. in defense of the policy of mueller, mueller wants you to know that whether something is technically a crime has little to do with whether it ought to be the kind of wrongdoing which should lead to impeachment, which is more profound. >> i thought his use of that word, it's only congress that can formally accuse a president of wrongdoing, accuse a president of wrongdoing, was an interesting choice of words. not ...

Enabled and depending on who the top of the ticket is, we can see some tremendous numbers in the senate swl. >> the most interesting case is senator thom tillis. he gave a speech on the floor of the senate explaining why they have to vote. senators must vote. if you're a true conservative, you must vote to knock done this declaration of national m emergency, he called his a steward of executive powers. i stood by that principle during the obama administration, he wrote, and i stand by it now. yet yesterday he didn't put in his vote the way he's been speaking and lecturing his colleagues. >> in...