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Charged with enormous environmental vjiolationses. then had volkswagen. these are high level examples. it gives you a sense of scale if we're talking about fringe benefits that's on the lower end of cale. >> what does that make you think about what could be in the indictment >> here's a couple of things i'll be looking for. trump organization despite all the cover of being this glamorous organization is really a small family held corporation. i'll be looking for two big things. first does the indictment mention any of the trumps who served as vp, executive vp. it won't say their names but coul...

Negligence. but there was intent to se sooef and fraud. >> i can't just say, barbara is in the faculty at michigan. i was a spartan for michigan state. i don't trust those wolverines. i bet there's something going on. you can't just say i think there might be something. you have to almost have something to an extent before you can deeply search for anything else, do i have that right? >> you absolutely do. and the reason for that is just as you said, we don't want prosecutors to be able to go on fishing expeditions against people who are their political enemies or just people they don't like. ...

State. i don't trust those wolverines. i bet there's something going on. you can't just say i think there might be something. you have to almost have something to an extent before you can deeply search for anything else, do i have that right? >> you absolutely do. and the reason for that is just as you said, we don't want prosecutors to be able to go on phishing expeditions against people who are their political enemies or just people they don't like. that would be considered arbitrary. and in violation of having a legitimate law enforcement objective. and so, there needs to be some sort of no...

I'm all for law and order. i don't trust either party, but the fact of the matter is, what is frightening here and you touched on it in your monologue, this is something much larger now than a few people who are doing a bad thing. and thank god, donald trump is the president to be able to deal with the aftermath of the shock of what we have learned over the last two to three years. and he will be reelected. the american people will see through this because we do not underestimate them. and we do not underestimate the president. >> sean: write commentary. >> shone from a quick point. >> sean: i...

I don't trust either party. but the fact of the matter is what's frightening here and you touched on it in your monologue, that this is something much larger now than a few people doing a bad thing and thank god donald trump is the president to be able to deal with the aftermath of the shock of what we have learned over the last two to three years, and he will be re-elected. the american people will see through this because we do not underestimate them and we do not underestimate the president. >> sean: great commentary, all three of you. tammy, thank you. i've got to run. bills to pay. thank ...