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Oi’ him politically. whether it will or not that remains to be seen, and some people have speculated this might backfire on democrats, or cause headaches forjoe biden. that is difficult to predict, but it is hard to say that an indictment is good news for the person who is indicted. it is going to be, no matter whether donald trump onset site two are characterises it this way or not, this is going to be a distraction for donald trump and this will be of an opening for donald trump's opponent to our running arm a run against him for president to say there is too much drama around donald trump...

Is the state of college sports in general and college basketball in particular? >> i think the -- i don't think the people who say it's going through a tumultuous time are exaggerating. i mean, that's the reason i took the job. i could have done a lot of other things. it would be a lot easier. and my friend and former colleague, senator mitt romney, when he heard i took this job said, well, he's going from the frying pan and into the fire. >> let's talk about that because the criticism that you hear is that you, and when i say you, i mean the ncaa -- >> yeah. >> i know you've only been there a...

Said he's going from in the frying pan, into the fire. >> the criticism that you hear is that you, when i say you i mean the ncaa, you've only been there less than 2 weeks, that the ncaa is too big, and too inflexible in dealing with all of the changes in big time college sports. and what people point to specifically, exhibit a, is the supreme court ruling in 2021 that led to college athletes being paid for use of their name, image, and likeness. and i l. do you think that criticism of the ncaa it's fair? >> i do. and i'll is not just about that moment, or that case. i personally think that th...

And indictments a very rea prospect here. >> lisa, are they taking a har look at testifying or is tha already off the table? >> i think it's off the tabl for some of the reasons that peter already discussed. this is a person who at leas understood that he was i enough jeopardy to have take the fifth amendment almost 500 times in a prior civil o position with the new york attorney generals office we also know that when donal trump's unconstrained, doesn't vote the fifth and testify civilly. he gets himself into all sorts of trouble exhibit a for that is this deposition in the carroll case which...

Construction worker still workers do they get a check because they didn't go to college? this is by the democrats used to be the party at the little guy now they are the party for the elites this is exhibit a right there. >> nothing makes you feel better going to work hard so college kids can buy party drugs for spring break. >> and at the end of the date your comfortable action your point is most importantly it does lead inflation. the most important thing of all it is a bail out for college and universities in arctic jacked up tuitions to places where no normal person can afford to pay the t...