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Reenact, perhaps crouch down, one on top of the other. >> try it out yourself. >> yeah. it will be interesting to see what they did. >> the exhibit list, the fact they asked for that. do you think they are passed that initial stage of reading through the instructions and picked the leader? >> they certainly have picked a leader. getting the exhibit list is important because from there the leader can then go through and show them what type of, what the evidence is and when there are questions that come up they have the exhibit list and can go to that and find the individual document. that's imp...

You have to fight through these jury instructions. the big issue they have to deal with right up, but at some point who was screaming. if you can reach a consensus on that, they may dictate which way you go. you'll have to deal with the evidence around. i don't know they can reach a consequence, an agreement on that but they have other witnesses that can help them do that. i think that logically they have to work through the individual facts. there's critical facts that are starting points that cause you to evaluate the evidence around the jury instruction. i think if there's a good foreperson...

hate. the tsa and ticket fees. add them together. >> what is it that's prompting them to ask for more? >> reporter: the agency backed by democrats in the senate wants to increase the security fee everyone pays for the ticket. from $2.50 a flight to $5 per one-way ticket. $10 round trip. >> 10's pushing it to a limit. i guess it's only $5 more but i wonder, you know, how that fits in. they already have a budget. >> reporter: tsa's budget is set to be cut. the agency says boosting this fee would help cover the increasing price of security like the costly scanners. the fee hasn't been h...

an event that enraged the catholic church was interrupted by an abortion protester. it was a speech by health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius at georgetown university. let's listen. >> having spent my entire life in public service -- i spent my entire life in public service -- [ cheers and applause ] >> cheers of support there from the graduates. the church had blasted georgetown for inviting sebelius not because of the obama administration's position on abortion, but church leaders instead were angry over sebelius' support of a law requiring employers, even religious ...

To waive some venue and jurisdiction issues that required the counts to be tried in the eastern district of virginia. and there's some consequences to having two separate trials, one of which is under the complicated federal sentencing formula, he would be a previously convicted felon, and that will enhance his sentence a little bit. white collar sentences are never really high. so having faced conviction, he likely wanted to cut a deal and see if he could somehow combine the two into a guilty plea. >> what about the legal costs of two trials? >> legal cost is, you know, an interesting thought...