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To consult within the government as to whether these matters can be unsealed. and also they're just going to need more time because right now this week between now and two days from now they are crushed with a ton of work. what work? i mean, it's -- it's interesting to see them make this public facing argument. we've never seen them say anything thick this before. i find this super intriguing. i also know we're going to need some expert help to try to figure that out. so we'll have that ahead on the show this hour. but i have to say this is particular surprising and particularly intriguing new...

We've never seen them say anything like this before. i find this super intriguing. i also know that we're going to need some expert help to try to figure it out. so we'll have that ahead on this show this hour. but i have to say, this is particular surprising and particularly intriguing news because of all the mixed signals we are getting right now about whether or not all these russia-related investigations are coming to an end or not. i mean, you have probably seen the headlines over the past week or so about some of the prosecutors and lead fbi agents who have been working for the special c...

Let's bring in some expert help on that. joining us now is joyce vance, former u.s. attorney in the northern district of alabama. joyce, thank you for being here tonight. i know it has been a dense day of following all this information. >> it's a smorgasbord kind of day, right? >> cohen provides these two checks from march and august of 2017, one signed by the president, one signed by the cfo and his eldest son. ro khanna there called that evidence of a criminal conspiracy of financial fraud. does that make sense as a legal matter? >> it does and it doesn't. it does in the sense that it looks ...

Those prosecutors are still actively pursuing it, how much worse are things for the president himself? let's bring in some expert help on that. joining us now is joyce vance, former u.s. attorney in the northern district of alabama. joyce, thank you for being here tonight. i know it has been a dense day of following all this information. >> it's a smorgasbord kind of day, right? >> cohen provides these two checks from march and august of 2017, one signed by the president, one signed by the cfo and his eldest son. ro khanna there called that evidence of a criminal conspiracy of financial fraud....

Of that sentence. but now here is the thing. we are going to have expert help here in a second to explain this better. i am not a lawyer, nobody should ever site anything i say in their own defense in court. but as i understand it, under federal law, you do sort of have one more card to play, potentially after you've been given your sentence by a federal judge.ve if prosecutors are interested in what you may have to say, and if you can offer prosecutors m substantial assistance toward the investigation or prosecutioa of another person, even after you have been sentenced, prosecutors can go bac...