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Revenues from those who aren't paying and the big companies are a big part of that. >> right. >> you look at companies like apple and amazon and others that have put all their international profits in protected tax havens, that's a money we should be getting. what i'm worried about is we spent trillions of dollars on wars that could well continue in the way that all of this tough talk is going, so we're way over extended militarily. >> so what do we do as far as just the exploding costs? the exploding costs for medicare, social security, medicaid, it seems to me, you're exactly right. we have ...

Los angeles do not speak going to need helpwn home. in the language and understanding this. and you got these folks, how long is it going to take each of the individuals to deal with each individual they are working with? i think you have -- i think you have a train wreck coming in obama care. i was talking in the green room and you know what they are going to do is the providers are going to start losing some of their income this year. the taxes applied. the exchanges all come into effect in january. all of the navigators supposedly on the ground. 33333 stays the states have not set up exchan...

The affordable care act and we're seeing the impact of that now. the president laid out in very -- very concise detail on tuesday night to the senate and to the country exactly what he is willing to do on medicare. the fact is, david, you just mentioned simpson-bowles. we get the same as they do in -- we get the same amount of savings in the next decade as simpson and bowles do in their plan. do we do it the same way? no, but get the exact amount of savings in medicare as they do. we have made clear -- >> the question with the retirement age that is not a cost reducer but a cost shifter and ta...

Long-term debt, no question about it is rising health care costs and why the president did the affordable care act and seeing the impact of that now. the president laid out in very -- very concise detail on tuesday night to the senate and to the country exactly what he is willing to do on medicare. the fact is, david, you just mentioned simpson-bowles. we get the same savings from our medicare reforms as simpson and bowles do in their plan. do we do it the same way? no but get the exact amount of savings in medicare as they do. we have made clear -- >> the question with the retirement age that...

Tremendously dramatic and entertaining political theater playing out with no considerationing whatsoever for the massive amount of money, the trillions that are sucked out of our economy by these wars or wildly inefficient energy structure or the exploding costs of american health care. my goodness that would be hard. joining us now, luke russert live on capitol hill following the budget action or inaction or disshrank, depending on your point of view. >> all of it. yeah. >> tell me what i need to know. >> well what you need to know, speaker boehner just went before the congressional press cor...