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These groups r if we could pull up, we have another map that shows where some of the groups inside syria are. if we have that map, do we have that one or no? there it is. the light green what we would call rebel or moderate forces. the darker green are some of these more extreme elements and, elizabeth, talk to us about the extreme elements because for some the mere presence of them there in an area where we might support the other rebels is enough to cause us pause. how strong are they in the region? are they a competitor to some of these moderate forces? >> you know, the extremist problem is...

We understand from british press reports that their version, the british version of the f.b.i. may have approached him about cooperating. you don't do that. who does he have access to? >> there's a real extremist problem, extremist threat in london. british authorities have over the last decade really been overwhelmed with it.

At the end of the day do we assist them in a way that changes the dynamics? and thirdly, we have a growing extremist problem here in al-qaeda, and they are growing in strength within syria. that is a real challenge to our national interest, as well. so if we continue to allow what is happening to take place, then we are only going to manifest the bigger problem at the end of the day. >> yeah, but if you're assad, you're looking at hosni mubarak who is in jail, likely forever what is the future for assad if he gives up? the people will lynch him and torture his family if he gives up. why should...

Reason. >> peter king correctly recognized there's an extremist problem in our country among the muslim community and we thought it would be a good idea to expose that. there was a huge uproar. dick durbin didn't understand why we were having those hearings. he had his own hearings yesterday to talk about the persecution that american muslims are going through. how successful he? >> this is a real p.r. disaster. after the demonization of peter king who is a good man, not anti-muslim. good person, they demonized him for weeks and weeks. now durbin tries to put on this guy who turns out revealed...

When you have two different forces operating within the same space. as to the suggestion that perhaps it's only isis targets and that the russians aren't simply out there to try to help the assad regime remain in power, something by the way that this administration is in conflict with, what the white house is saying is that they are, the russians, hitting targets they are intending to do so nonisis targets and that, says thes who, is counterproductive. >> the effect of these kinds of inscrimmage -- indiscriminal nat air strikes drives what would otherwise be moderate elements of the sunni oppo...