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We had got vectored out to the west. when we arrived, the cruiser with the aegis system said it was merge plot which means they couldn't break us up. as we both looked out the right side of our airplane we saw a disturbance in the water and a white object oblong pointing north moving erratically left, right, north, south, up, down, all around. as we started clockwise flow around the disturbance watching it i decided that i would go lower and the other jet stayed high to observe both of us. as i got to about the 12:00 position the object started to mirror us. now we're both in a clockwise flow ...

Pilots chased after it but it sped away. the pilot of one of those aircraft spoke to cnn earlier tonight. >> as we looked out the right side of our airplane, we saw a disturbance in the water, like the braves breaking over the top. and a white object, pointing north, moving left-right, north-south, up-down, all around. i'm in the 8:00 position and the tick tack is at about 2:00. i cut across the middle, and as i got close to it, probably within a mile to half a mile, it rapidly accelerated to the south and disappeared in less than two seconds. it had no wings, so you would think it's a helicop...

Reported, have been -- half of the navy's f-18's can't fly and half of the b-1 is bomber force can't fly and that is seriously a crisis situation from those i'm speaking to out here at the forum, gillian. gillian: thanks for joining us from there and we will have general neller at the 1:00 hour. much more coming up on fox news. at 4 p.m., bret baier sits down an h.r. mcmaster at the defense forum. you'll be able to watch it live. in the next hour, marine corps general neller, what they need forward in the 21st century. coverage from the reagan national defense forum continues with fox news sun...

Fighter jets can't fly. and john mccain saying this is a self-inflicted wound. $54 billion, is that enough? >> i think there's two components to this. one is overall management of the pentagon which is always an ongoing issue. >> the president is the commander in chief. >> and he's only been there for ten months, though. this is the biggest agency with discretionary funding in the u.s. secondly, there is this issue of the u.s. navy pacific fleet which is a serious problem which has had event after event after event that's caused casualties. ships crashing, planes crashing. famously, the pacifi...

Teaching student pilots in a faster way and better way and in a cheaper way by using programs like this but this is just the simulation, now it's time to really get in the jets. helping me out lockheed martin test pilot, he's a former f-18 navy pilot who has hundreds of hours fighting the f-35. >> this is a t-50, jet trainer. as technology matures, you take advantage of that and train air force pilots a lot more efficiently than has been done in the past and we have a good solution, it's ready now, low risk and the aircraft has been tested, vetted and flown and we did have the airplane modifie...