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Lengthily when we get to the oklahoma, l.a. clippers used the "n" word. in terms of the f word, i can't even read the headline. it's a very, very smart piece of the alec baldwin thing about the use of the word. i want to play a clip from ann coult coult coulter. >> in defense of alec baldwin, i don't think the guy, he was a photographer. he's not actually gay. this is just a course word like using the f word and frankly i think a lot of paparazzi photographers deserve it. it's not something alec baldwin said in a calm moment on television. he has been harassed horribly by photographers and now...

Or getter or whatever or identity and say i am intentionally trying to be harmful to you, you can absorb so much negativity around that subject that you can spew it out and not be conscious of the fact you're operating. >> you made a point in here you think is perfectly okay and in fact, you know friends that do this, you think it's okay you said in your piece for a gay man with another gay man and a group of gay men to use the f word in that situation. again, i would say is he wise that the victimized and they are victimized, sections of the community, whether the f word for them or "n" word ...

I want to play a clip from ann coulter. >> in defense of alec baldwin, i don't think the guy, he was a photographer. he's not actually gay. this is just a course word like using the f word and frankly i think a lot of paparazzi photographers deserve it. it's not something alec baldwin said in a calm moment on television. he has been harassed horribly by photographers and now this stalker and he's trying to protect his family and he -- that is what happened. >> in response to that, anderson cooper, my cnn colleague did a couple tweets about alec baldwin saying while alec baldwin shows his true ...

It, i'm not sure i would have seen it in my head as being an antiinflammatory -- >> this is the thing, that you got at before which is that you don't have to be conscious of your bias to be operational. the idea that you may not look at a bias whether it be racial or getter or whatever or identity and say i am intentionally trying to be harmful to you, you can absorb so much negativity around that subject that you can spew it out and not be conscious of the fact you're operating. >> you made a point in here you think is perfectly okay and in fact, you know friends that do this, you think it's ...

Management responsibilities. >> it's your testimony today that something should have happened? they should not be on the job not having lost a day's pay? >> we made recommendations that two of those people removed from their job. >> people should have been fired that have not been fired? >> fired is a discipline. it is a different set of circumstances. >> so accountability is -- >> -- for the secretary of state and what he or she -- >> wouldn't you agree there was no accountability? >> there was accountability. >> on a point of order. >> and we identified it. >>elisabeth: certainly a fiery exc...