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Do you believe that? >> no. you can argue about the projections and baseline. this bill takes over 1$1.1 trillion out of the healthcare system the next 10 years, 4 or $500 million in maine. you can't take that kind of money out of the system and say nobody is going to be hurt. that doesn't pass the straight face test. that's the simplest way to look at it, minus 1.1 trillion dollars of support going into people's premium supports under the aca or medicaid. why are the hospitals all against it? why are the medical associations against it? why is the aarp against it? not because of the scores, b...

Complicated. >> it's complicated and sends mixed signals. it's confusing to everybody, not only reporters in washington, lawmakers. an interesting point. dan scavino was celebrating. kellyanne conway saying stop paying attention to what he says. angus king sides with the democrats, but here's his take. >> this is a significant problem. for the administration to say don't mind what this man is saying, wizard of oz, don't pay attention to the man behind the curtain, that doesn't pass the straight face test. >> if you're mitch mcconnell, speaker paul ryan, the committee chairs in congress, for a ...

Senator, always good to see you. what do you make of this? why is the president going out of his way to undermine the white house's own message? >> well, i don't think he's going out of his way to purposefully undermine it. i think he's being himself and communicating that the danger is that he's making policy almost inadvertently. i had been governor 20 years ago about a month when a friend said you have to be careful when you are having lunch or walking down the hall, you can verbally make policy. when you are the president, you can't just say what is on your mind at that particular moment a...

Chairman, the vice chairman of the intelligence committee in the senate leading the investigation and walked out of a meeting with rod rosenstein yesterday, a surprise meeting on the hill, and he had this to say in reaction to the president's comments about jim comey personally. >> i trusted jim comey. i thought he had made some mistakes last fall but never called for his resignation. it thought he was a straight shooter and frankly, i'm offended at the president's comments today. this is a continuing pattern of disrespecting the men and women who serve in our intelligence community. >> report...

Grandstander absolutely doesn't pass the straight face test, particularly coming from this president. >> so the president is the show boater and he's the boy scout. thank you, senator king for that interpretation. i'm joined by mike quigley of illinois who sits on the house committee. the question to you, congressman, do you believe what you're hearing from the white house, the president's various accounts of what he calls reality? >> i mean there's a pattern here of deflection, distraction, denial, and the fourth d that comes to mind with me is unfortunately, and if i can say this with respec...