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Technology. it allows them to fabricate a device and test them against screening technology. not just isis and iraq, it is al qaeda and yemen, all the intelligence is pointing to all of these groups really stepping up their efforts to try and attack commercial aviation, even aviation coming into the united states. al qaeda in yemen, the underwear bomber came very close as an airport landed in detroit to someone detonating a bomb on their body. so this is all part of the reason you're seeing the growing concern, all of this contributing to the ban on consumer electronics when you fly. anderson?...

They said look for a predicate to be laid down here, that is when nunes started talking about incidental collection, the white house already had this information. >> and anderson, the fact you're asking me this right now demonstrates why it's a problem. just the perception of a conflict of interest can be as bad as a conflict of interest, that is why i think the responsible thing to do for the chairman is to step aside. also anderson, when you talk about telegraphing something that is coming, that has a ring of familiarity to me, because that is the same thing we saw discussed on john podesta,...

Partisan supreme coupolitics thd be granted immunity? i mean not that he revealed anything, but clearly there are a lot of politics agent s goin >> i believe, anderson, we should stay away from politics, i'm home right now, and my constituents are asking what did you do to avoid the russian interference in the campaign? so really we have to take the white house out of our investigation. and right now the way they are working with chairman nunes, they have inserted themselves into the independent and incredible work we have to do. that is wrong and it affects our ability to do this the right wa...

Strong propaganda campaign which did not focus so much on their brutality in the early days but on the idea of this brother hood of coming together and working to help the muslim people. they presented themselves as god's warriors, as heros. here you can be a rock star. that message, anderson, was all too alluring. >> it was appealing. we have seen people with petty criminal backgrounds and who were kind of losers. it made them part of something larger as completely important as it is. >> it does. it empowers them. it gives them a sense that they were a nobody back home and now they are somebo...

Just the perception of a conflict of interest can be as bad as a conflict of interest, that is why i think the responsible thing to do for the chairman is to step aside. also anderson, when you talk about telegraphing something that is coming, that has a ring of familiarity to me, because that is the same thing we saw discussed on john podesta, so again, whether they are unwittingly using the tactics the russians orchestrated, we'll see that play out in the white house. >> thank you. joining us now, david gergen, jason miller, in terms of general flynn's request for immunity, is there a pote...