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Veterans that really educated me as a young man about what they had had been through and how terrible it was for them to come home. >> caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. ♪ ♪ hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. the primary anchor on univision jorge ramos asked me for an interview. i immediately said okaymo because mr. ramos is a stand-up guy he comes in here when we ask him. the interview is interesting because jorge and i see the world very differently. >> thanks so much for inviting me to your set. >> a pleasure. you always ...

>> i want everyone to be treated fairly. i don't oppose a pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens in america. i do not oppose that. >> but you want to secure the border. >> correct. because i don't want the merry go round to continue which i don't think does the country any good. chaos doesn't do anybody any good. >> you a border in impenetrable. >> if it's made a felony they won't do it anymore will they, jorge? >> well they. >> will they jorge? make it a felony to overstay their visa they won't overstay their visas anymore. >> they are coming because we are giving them jobs. >> all right. ...

If you have 72% of children born out of wedlock in the african-american community 72% you are going to have poverty, jorge. >> white privilege in this country. let me jump to another thing. as irish catholic you said the idea of writing killing jesus came from the holy spirit. >> right. >> really? >> yeah. you are catholic right? >>. no i was born catholic. i'm not a catholic anymore. but it is very dangerous to mix politics and religion. >> i'm not mixing politics. i'm an ordinary citizen. i wrote the book. >> you are not ordinary citizen because you are suggesting. >> american citizen. >> bo...

Have a worker program that fills the needs of american business. i'm for that i'm for a fair immigration law. >> but to say that you want to secure the border, that's sometime is just an excuse to do nothing. >> well, no, if i were the president, i would secure the border, jorge. if you have 150,000 children crossing the border, you tonight have a secure border jorge. come on. >> that's exactly the opposite. what it means is that the system is working. therefore,. >> working? >> exactly. they surrendered to the authorities. >> they shouldn't even get to the authorities, you see. in most countr...

You always come on the factor jorge. you are a standup guy so i'm happy to talk to you. >> this is the no spin zone. when it comes to race, politics immigration, you are clearly right wing. >> well, that's your opinion, but i would say that i'm a problem-solver. on immigration, for example, which is one of your big issues, all right? >> sure. >> i want everyone to be treated fairly. i don't oppose a pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens in america. i do not oppose that. >> but you want to secure the border. >> correct. because i don't want the merry go around to continue which i don't thin...