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Equipment or a large number of personnel. they may be flying into the city of beaumont to try to find a dry space to see if they can open up the back of the huey and load people on. that would be the fastest way of getting people out. >> it's wider and longer than the -- than the black hawk and the seahawk. >> it's a flying bus, you can fit a ton of people on here. i don't know the stats exactly but the last time we saw this it was full of military personnel who had been coming in to help. i'm not sure if we'll see civilians on this. but they're still trying to bring in more equipment, more ra...

Iraqs, the necessary initial first step, but there are other areas they have to address. including this pocket, as i said, and importantly, the euphrates valley up to the syrian border. >> with all that, barbara, how will the u.s. military be utilized or involved? >> reporter: clearly the u.s. will take very much a leading role in overhead reconnaissance, aircraft and drones flying overhead almost constantly looking for isis targets, just as rick was saying. to go after them. you can have troops on the ground, but they're going to have to have aircraft overhead, patrolling these vast areas and...

>> leah: a tore -- reckon sill leah tori tone. that puts them at odds. if the united states under this trump administration is going to, according to rex tillerson, let the syria people decide what happens to bashar al assad, that means for a long time president assad is going to stay in power committing these attacks. >> proof that this hit an alleged chemical weapons stash, how hard is that to prove or disprove? >> it's going to be hard to prove which monitors a lot of the air activity over the country. they would not be putting out those statements if they weren't sure this was something co...

Kushner. that's why the chairman of the joint chief of staff, joe dunford, invited kushner to take this secret trip to iraq, arrived unannounced. it's not just the generals. secretary mattis, nbc news learned has had several meetings with kushner that's here at the pentagon, as well as at the white house. and just to give you a sense of what kushner will be seeing, he's going to see a very aggressive fight. remember the fighting in west mosul is taking place in iraq, also in syria, some u.s. troops were inserted behind enemy lines last week near the dam. one quick note on this, there isn't tha...

There was a bomb that took down this plane, jose. >> jim miklaszewski, thank you very much. nbc's ron allen is at the white house this morning. ron, what's the administration saying about this? >> reporter: well, on this issue of whether or not there was a bomb on the plane, they are deferring to the intelligence community and looking to the investigations being conducted by the egyptians and to some extent by the russians as well because obviously it was one of their planes that was shot down. here they point out that there are no u.s. jets, commercial carriers, that fly in that area over the...