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Was not sure kavanaugh was the person involved. how are we talking about this and the united states supreme court hangs in the balance and the man's life and reputation. >> martha: are you comfortable with how this has come about and these uncorroborated allegations that led to where we are now where brett kavanaugh is now? >> no! that's why we need a fair hearing just like he called for every time you asked him in this interview. you asked both of them repeatedly if they would agree to an fbi investigation. neither answered your question. >> martha: he did. he said america is about fairness. ...

What do you think is happening? >> i don't know. i want a fair process where i can defend my integrity. i know i am telling the truth. you're headed down the highway when the guy in front slams on his brakes out of nowhere. you do, too, but not in time. hey, no big deal. you've got a good record and liberty mutual won't hold a grudge by raising your rates over one mistake. you hear that, karen? liberty mutual doesn't hold grudges... how mature of them. for drivers with accident forgiveness liberty mutual won't raise their rates because of their first accident. liberty mutual insurance. ♪ lib...

Others like the new york senator. he said i believe this woman. i believe all of them. they are credible. we all have to believe them. when you hear united states senators making final judgments, what did that make you think about the presumption of innocent in this country? >> in america we have fairness. we hear from both sides. i spent my life in the judiciary. part of the judicial system as i said during my hearing was process protects you. that's what judges believe. that's what our system is built on. the rule of law, about fair process. >> martha: do you feel unprotected by the process?...

>> martha: in terms of the process now and what happens now. when you look at how all of -- where all this generated from. is this about roe v. wade or people who initially right off the bat said they wanted to see you never take a spot on the supreme court? where is this all coming from? >> i just want a fair process where i can be heard. >> martha: you don't have any thoughts on where this is coming from? >> i just want a fair process where i can be heard and defend my integrity and that of my family. i am telling the truth. >> coming from? >> i just want an opportunity and a fair process to...

>> i honestly don't know. kate. i'm going to say, look, i expected this to be a bunch of softball questions, i thought he was going to the trump organization and he would be treated with kid gloves. that did not happen. i rarely if ever disagree with karen, my friend, but i think this was a disaster. the repetition of fair process, respecting the dignity and honor of women, also, i hate to say this, but this is the turf we're on. he went into a long soliliquoy of all i did in high school was study and play ball. he opened up terry now for i