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Know, existence and continued vigor of the democratic system itself. it's really harrowing. >> yeah, i mean, rev, adam schiff said the democracy -- i was asking about the stakes. he said democracy's in worse shape now than it was in when january 6th happened. what, in your mind, are the stakes for the public phase and the final product of the january 6th select committee? >> i think that what is at stake is our whole democracy, our whole democratic principles. the question is, and it has to be answered by this committee, is, are we going to let people actively plan and execute a plan to stop a...

Raffensperger and kemp refused to throw out the results of the georgia elections, and that's despite the fact that they backed and pushed voter suppression laws that were so offensive, baseball took the all-star game somewhere else. he's furious with them, but his guy, i think, purdue is down almost 18, 20 points to kemp. what does that say to you about republican primary voters in georgia? >> well, you know, actually, i'm going to use the example of madison cawthorn. there is clearly evidence that republicans can police themselves. the question is, will they? and in what instances? and the qu...

Punled and byes and inticker symbol jity and in states where they had no fraud. i want to ask a question, when you hear mitch mcconditionel and kevin mccarthy on tape and these two great reporters from "the new york times" have lots and lots of tapes sounding like you and me, describing donald trump as a son of a bitch and that's mitch mcconnell and kevin mccarthy making it clear that after january 6th, donald trump had to go and detailing on a conference call with members that he wouldn't resign, but other impeachment and the 25th amendment and whose only concern that was it was too slow. whe...

Does anyone either on the committee or, you know, do people feel like they just have to answer and show they sought to disclose and be transparent about her role in it, or the perceived role that she would play? >> well, one thing i have heard is that if the january 6th committee won't take up this ginni thomas avenue of the investigation, that maybe one of the other committees on the hill will. perhaps the judiciary committee, because these -- a lot of these questions do actually get to the courts and the supreme court and its institutional gravitas or legitimacy, and if the january 6th commi...

It really takes away from his posture as a justice. remember, he's the guy who said, when he was confirmed, the liberals made me miserable for 43 years and i'm going to make them miserable for 43 years. each time these things come out, it's almost bigger than the question, should he be recused from any individual case, and it's just the great unseemliness of the couple as being so much on a particular side. there are other things. i agree that she doesn't come out in a big way in the investigation, but one of the two people she writes is now an arizona secretary of state candidate, so it plays...