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What people see in the message of bernie sanders and the message of someone like alexandra ocasio-cortez, which is basically saying we should have a more fair system and this is a generation of people who have grown up seeing the results of a system that has not been in their favor. this is a generation that has seen institutional failures of capitalism over and over again. so it shouldn't be surprising that when our leaders have failed on such a broad-based level that people are looking to see maybe there could be something different here. and to be clear, this is not people saying we want to...

Sure that we include those components that the president very clearly has laid out. >> just picking up on what you just left off on. does a good deal include preferring white immigrants from norway than black and brown immigrants from haiti? >> not at all. it's the opposite. because by definition, a merit-based system is color blind. it's not basing it on any of that criteria. it's not based on race or religion or country of origin. it's actually based on the merits of whether or not this person will be contributing to society. so actually it erases all of those things and makes it a much more...

Make a deal on daca and make sure that we include those components that the president very clearly has laid out. >> merit-based -- >> sorry, i'm going to pop around today since we're on a short timeframe. >> picking up on what you left off on, does a good deal include then preferring white immigrants from norway than -- >> not at all. in fact, it's actually the opposite. by definition a merit-based system is colorblind. it's not basing it on any of that criteria. it's not based on race, not based on religion, not based on country of origin. it's actually fwas babased on t merits of whether or ...

Expenses, things people previously ducted, gone. seems to offset. >> dana: i feel like we have been saying forever that you get a once in a generation opportunity to reform taxes. republicans, conservative, for decades. saying you want a simpler, flatter, fair system. maybe kind of halfway. not really. they have to do this deal making. a i wish they could do the right thing economically even though it's hard politically. do the corporate tax rate cut and figure out the individual stuff later. this is a mess. >> greg: it's like taking half a donkey and half an elephant. >> kimberly: go back to ...

Give a little if they give a little? >> well, i want to say that the test has to be does this plan actually reduce the number of people who are covered by insurance who have access to health care, or not? i think that's really the test. it's fine for republicans and democrats to get together and agree. the and i have always, as a member of the energy and commerce committee been willing to sit down and work something out. but the litmus test for this is are we going to see a cbo report that says that people are going to lose their insurance. let me say this. the i think it is time for us to at ...