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This early on, the thought with was that that's maybe where the special prosecutor was going, manafort maybe had liquidity and financial problems and thought being appoint as trump campaign manager might get him out of the woods here. could leave you with a scenario, where trump is going to go eventually, there are going to be more indictments down the road, he's going to say i didn't know anything about this. that's going to be his fallback defense in the end. even if my campaign officials, my campaign employees were contacting the russians i knew nothing about it. so it has nothing to do wit...

Actually, robuchon helped me come to america, he found me the job. >> anthony: what would you have been if you'd failed as an aspiring chef? what was your fallback position? >> eric: i wanted to be a forest ranger. >> anthony: forest ranger? >> eric: yeah. >> anthony: why? you like nature or something? >> eric: yeah. >> anthony: what was it, the uniform? you like the uniform? the shorts -- they get shorts and a little hat like smokey the bear. >> anthony: but you're not an outdoorsmen at all. you don't fish. >> eric: no, because i don't want to catch fish. >> anthony: we'll leave that where it...

Actually, robuchon helped me come to america, he found me the job. >> anthony: what would you have been if you'd failed as an aspiring chef? what was your fallback position? >> eric: i wanted to be a forest ranger. >> anthony: forest ranger? >> eric: yeah. >> anthony: why? you like nature or something? >> eric: yeah. >> anthony: what was it, the uniform? you like the uniform? the shorts -- they get shorts and a little hat like smokey the bear. >> anthony: but you're not an outdoorsmen at all. you don't fish. >> eric: no, because i don't want to catch fish. >> anthony: we'll leave that where it...

Went into a flooded highway underpass. more news after the interview. mr. secretary, thanks for the time. >> great to be here. >> bret: do the hurricanes and the extra spending make it tougher on tax reform and not busting the budget? >> i don't think so. first of all, these two hurricanes, these were back-to-back. this is a horrible situation, and our number one focus is to make sure we get the money to the states to rebuild. >> bret: house ways and means committee chairman kevin brady said today that they are in the process on tax reform. he has also suggested may be some tax incentives for ...

Obamacare light. not having that supported means they are in the position of trying to hang the repeal sign on anything they do. david and i were talking before we came on this morning, in in quiet period you don't want to count anything out from being accomplished. it seems a very difficult road. i think what is additionally difficult, i should say, is their fallback position is if they work with democrats to get something, i don't think democrats are going to participate as long as it is under the guys of any kind of repeal as opposed to just fixing. there are so many different interested pa...