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next couple of weeks. problem for the white house that the longer this goes on it starts to undermine their credibility on other issues. that is why republicans are saying you cannot trust what the president says as fact. >> mark halpern, you have layers of that happening. you have not only the president doing that, exactly what katty just spelled out beautifully, but you have a top adviser repeatedly going out, going rogue, saying things that are wrong, that are ludicrous, that are fantastical. she even talks about alternative facts. and you have this person in a very strong position in t...

"boston globe." it says in part, they believe what trump has told them over and over that this election is rigged and if he loses it will be because of a massive conspiracy to take him down. if trump doesn't win, some are even openly talking about violent rebellion and assassination, as fantastical and unhinged as that may seem. that's the concern from so many people. even if you have, let's say, 99% of the folks who say, you know what, this is the way we go. if you have 1% of people who want to revolt or are that angry, should we be concerned? >> yeah, i think you always have to be concerned....

Can win the nomination. >> well, but then you dismiss polls that have carson being hilla -- beating hillary. >> i do. i do. i believe the attention has not yet drilled down to trump's point. look, they are fantastical. they are eyebrow raising accounts. the belt buckle story is one that i think is deserving of attention. the yale story about how it now turns out, it appears he got pram pranked in a psychology exam, the popeye story he told to me on the radio when he explained to me, i directed the gunman to the appropriate individual. he gets a pass on this, chris, from his constituency becaus...

Up? >> and i thought this was interesting that afterwards he was fine with the debate. part of the frustration i think is like okay, you want to talk policy then let's talk policy. but that is not what has been essentially valued thus far in the republican party. >> there was a hilarious thing, though, about kasich as truth teller which is that he has his own tax plan which he has his own projections for. he says i'm going to cut taxes massively and by 2025 tax revenues will be 250 billion higher a year than if i had never cut taxes. there's this dispute in the republican primary about how fan...

Had at the time. and tragically, four americans lost their lives. but all these fantastical conspiracy theories, there's been no evidence uncovered in the 72 weeks this committee has been in existence, the longest-running investigation ever, that proves anything to the contrary. so it's very disingenuous to tell families, we're going to get answers and closure for you, and there's been no new evidence that points to anything other than what the eight reports have all concluded. chairman dowdy said i'd rather ask the question twice than not at all. well, those questions have been asked and answ...