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It is a genuine news entity with very capable people. you see that at 6:00, you see that with many people that work at fox news. then there's this other part that exists with mainline fantasy into the conservative bloodstream. i said in 2010 that republicans began by thinking fox worked for us, then we discovered we all worked for fox. i took some heat for that at the time, but that has become half of the fox identity, not the other half. and the question for that network is going to be, do they want to be a trusted news source, or do they want to be a fantasy bubble for people -- a safe space...

Against factors of great wealth. there's a populace message from the left -- there's a lot more middle class americans than there are rich people. billionaires seem to live in their own fantasy bubble. >> is that true andy? >> fantasy bubble maybe is a little strong. but i don't disagree. if you think about it just to echo what douglas was saying ceos are used to a command and control system. everyone reports up to them. in washington as president you also have to deal with the judicial branch and congress. if you're not used to being clab ra ra -- collaborative, you're not going to succeed. i...

Permit, somebody who's volunteered to go through the process and go through the background checks and they wish to carry a firearm at work, they do so. the gun is concealed. nobody knows the gun is even there until it has to be produced and we've been doing this for several years now, and i have people tell me, well, you know, the teacher is not as trained as a police officer. well, that's true, but they don't need to be navy seals, they need to be speed bumps. what we've seen over and over again with the people, the violent mass shooters, tend to be operating in a fantasy bubble and they will...

Has a concealed weapons permit, somebody who's volunteered to go through the process and go through the background checks and they wish to carry a firearm at work, they do so. the gun is concealed. nobody knows the gun is even there until it has to be produced and we've been doing this for several years now, and i have people tell me, well, you know, the teacher is not as trained as a police officer. well, that's true, but they don't need to be navy seals, they need to be speed bumps. what we've seen over and over again with the people, the violent mass shooters, tend to be operating in a fant...

Permit, somebody who's volunteered to go through the process and go through the background checks and they wish to carry a firearm at work, they do so. the gun is concealed. nobody knows the gun is even there until it has to be produced and we've been doing this for several years now, and i have people tell me, well, you know, the teacher is not as trained as a police officer. well, that's true, but they don't need to be navy seals, they need to be speed bumps. what we've seen over and over again with the people, the violent mass shooters, tend to be operating in a fantasy bubble and they will...