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Impact. and i think that they had a -- it sort of fascinates me to watch, makes me want to put on my jambies, put on some popcorn and watch it all unfold and watch them struggle with their failure of imagination. these are people supposed to be the most imaginative people on the planet. they had a failure to appreciate how bad the problem was at best or cover it up, a failure of imagination to how you wrestle with it. that's what plagued the clinton campaign, in terms of both facebook, concern about bots, concern about trolls, where they were coming from as well as have people wrap their heads...

Catastrophic this could be for the future. if we decide as a country that everything is through a partisan lens. >> yes, i think it's -- well, one of the things that sort of fascinates me about this whole scenario is we have a number of politicians who are definitionally partisan, saying it is they who are the objective observers of what's going on here and these fbi agents based on a few scattered text messages that are hopefully partisan and biassed in their assessment. this is a huge divergence not only for politicians but for the republican party and in particular to start going after the ...

Bob bennett, really powerful law firm behind it, and they were always amazed when they would see these very polished, very scholarly briefs coming in from the paula jones side, saying these guys can't be writing it, the public lawyers, because they were not constitutional scholars. in fact, it was the elves, this coterie of lawyers, and they had been -- and peter smith had helps recruit them. >> mike, thank you for being with us tonight. i'm sorry that our time is short. may i ask you briefly one last question? do you know what he's been up to since the '90s? >> i had totally lost track of him...

Scholarly briefs coming in from the paula jones side, saying these guys can't be writing it, the public lawyers, because they were not constitutional scholars. in fact, it was the elves, this coterie of lawyers, and they had been -- and peter smith had helps recruit them. >> mike, thank you for being with us tonight. i'm sorry that our time is short. may i ask you briefly one last question? do you know what he's been up to since the '90s? >> i had totally lost track of him until shane harris resurrected him in this fascinates series of stories.

Fascinates series of stories. >> your 1999 book, uncovering clinton, is now selling out right this second on amazon because he has resurfaces. michael isikoff, really appreciate you being here. thanks very much. >> okay. >> that does it for us tonight. we will see you again next week. we will see you on monday. that's right, july 3rd, uh-huh. it's time for "the last word." ari melber sitting in for lawrence tonight. good evening. >> just one question. what have you been up to since the '90s? >> you know what? i'm going to have to look into it. i have a feeling if anybody knows, michael isikoff...