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Because one day he might want to make the exact same assertion over advice given to him. trump could say that he still has a privilege. the courts would have to hear litigation on that matter. it would drag out further, to your point. fascinating question, chuck. i don't know if the end that it's going to be resolved in this particular case. we may need another lawsuit and another contest between the branchs. we need a court to rule more quickly than the courts have ruled in the past. >> yeah. let's hope we don't have a situation where we are worried about the power of one branch usurping what...

Quote, merit the highest penalty available under the new enforcement protocols. last month, the oversight board ordered them to review their rules. trump responded in a statement a few moments ago calling it an insult to the people who voted for him. joined by chuck rosenberg, an nbc news legal analyst. we were here to talk with him about the don mcgahn testimony. we will. i want to ask a question more as a constitutional law professor for us. is there a legitimate first amendment case for donald trump to bring against facebook? what would that look like if there is? >> there is not. no. it's ...

That's worth watching. >> are we just all trying to look at this too soon? it feels like we're going to -- i look at just the white collar private sector. it's clear that we are going to have a slow movement back into the office, because lo and behold, it's summer. there's been this demand that people want a little more break. is the october -- the september jobs report the first one that will really tell us where we are headed as an economy? >> maybe. you raise a good point, which is, if you put this comeback against any previous comeback from a recession, we are actually on the fastest speed...

Accommodation. they get their documents, their witness. no court has ruled that this is legitimate. the court is going to drop the case ultimately, upon request of the parties. but there is a congressional legislative branch interest that has been vindicated, because mr. mcgahn is there today talking to them. will we learn lots of new things? probably not. it is important to congress' oversight responsibility that they get to listen to witnesses, talk to them direct. >> what would happen if the former president used executive privilege? >> that's an interesting question. it's interesting quest...

Game, you are going to have to pay a price. that signal needs to be sent. >> i gotta ask you about ufos. the truth is out there. the question i have is, we have been reading about these -- it's mostly been observations from navy personnel. when you have seen this unidentifiable stuff, is your presumption that it is a china or russia testing some crazy technology that we somehow don't have? or are we over assuming the abilities of china and russia, and if it's not us, that it's something otherworldly? >> it's been going on a long time. there's speculation. i have never seen any evidence that an...