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Granted i've never had a conversation with a bariatric surgeon. it does feel a little like the medical profession is behind the curve in a useful way of talking to people about managing their weight. >> i think erika is right and we want this classification to spur more research, more research on prevention and more research on what are the effective ways doctors and patients can communicate about this and we'll be able to talk about obesity as a disease in and of itself, not just the medical complications, not wait until it gets so far along it's so much more difficult to treat. >> why would ...

Obesity. it's the wrong message. so many americans are overweight. they are on the critical edge of becoming obese. it doesn't talk about the problems that fat in and of itself has for diabetes, cancer and dementia. >> it say that is you may live and enjoy your life more because you have brownies. but it doesn't tell us about the other things. >> what you are living with. that fat tissue, bmi does not measure fat tissue and where it's located. the fat around your midsection, that's what's so important. i think that's what the study did lack. what the fat does, we know that 37 million americans...

Effects. so fat tissue actually makes substances that can cause or cause cancer to progress, things like high insulin levels, inflammation, hormone levels. so there are some direct biological effects of being obese. >> dr. mctiernan, thanks again for your research. >> thank you. and the president is about to speak, i believe, in boston. we may be going there, is that right? okay. no, we won't be going there for the moment. we'll come back in a moment. we'll ask, how did teachers become public enemy number one? we'll clear the air. when your eyes are smiling... you're smiling. and when they'r...

And more exercise. the european breast cancer conference, scientists says overweight welt are more prone to get the disease, because it is fueled by estrogen, primarily found in fat tissue. i'm marianne rafferty, back to "on the record." sed on health care. quietly something else end up looped into the health care bill. what are we talking about? we went to capitol hill and senator john thune went on the record. nice to see. >> nice to see. >> greta: nice to be in your office. >> nice to have you here. not much to see but we have our buffalo. >> greta: and your green bay packer helmet. >> that...