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United states. on the other airline that flies them u.s. airways and they have newer models. >> you and i were talking earlier about a bigger picture here, maybe something we're not thinking of. tell us about it. >> this is where it will impact the entire industry. i spoke with darryl jenkins, an aviation expert, an author and airline consultant and what we're talking about here, not just for the southwest, but delta and american are aging airliners. for instance, the d.c.-9, md-80. here is what he told me they're constantly serviced and put back. and at certain point repairing the outer hull....

Don't do it. does it apply takeoff and landing in the most modern up to date planes as well? you should never have this equipment on during takeoff and landing no matter what plane you are on? >> one of the challenges we have in aviation is being consistent and coming up with a rule that stays in place regardless of the type of airplane or what the conditions are. so if we have a rule that applies to a 777 but not a dc-9, passengers get confused now you have noncompliance for sure. i believe the rule should be in place as it is right now until somebody proves something different to me, i don't...

If it's 100 seats on a plane, 85 are going to be taken by people with tickets. there's going to be 15 extra ones for stand-byes for people who were sitting there waiting since thursday. so you only have 15 slots to get on to that plane. obviously some planes get bigger, but 300 equals 45 slots. >> not like the old day where's they keep extra planes around. one of the things richard was saying if you want a confirmed seat and been bumped, you have to wait until next week. if you are standing at the airport, you might be one of those 15. what a hassle that is to sit around. >> and a trickle-down...

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