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Issue, and critically, speculation about who the special counsel might be trying to build a case against, if not, solely. let's say paul manafort as "the washington post" is saying and sam is discussing. what might be that fish to flip or however the analogy goes? which person you might be looking at that could be closer to president trump, and perhaps the special counsel has their eye on as well. at this point, it is speculation, but that's not stopping as you know, brian, folks in washington, from buzzing about it. >> absolutely, and paul, so often when you are on as a former fed yourself, w...

Let's say paul manafort as "the washington post" is saying and sam is discussing. what might be that fish to flip or however the analogy goes? which person you might be looking at that could be closer to president trump, and perhaps the special counsel has their eye on as well. at this point, it is speculation, but that's not stopping as you know, brian, folks in washington, from buzzing about it. >> absolutely, and paul, so often when you are on as a former fed yourself, we ask you to express to our audience in no uncertain terms the awesome power of the federal government, and the almost lim...