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Office, after seven weeks of nonappearance. he said to me, why aren't you going to therapy. i said sir, i can't get there. he said to me, you are in denial. i said of course i'm in denial. denial is the greatest of all defense mechanisms. i can be a professor of denial. i'm an expert. i was going on and on. he wasn't amused. >> he gave him an ultimatum, go to group therapy or leave the program. >> i went the next 21 weeks or whatever it was. i didn't say a word. so, whatever people would notice that, why aren't you talking? i said because i'm in denial. i'm not a big therapy guy. >> was it bec...

Office, after seven weeks of nonappearance. he said to me, why aren't you going to therapy. i said sir, i can't get there. he said to me, you are in denial. i said of course i'm in denial. denial is the greatest of all defense mechanisms. i can be a professor of denial. i'm an expert. i was going on and on. he wasn't amused. >> he gave him an ultimatum, go to group therapy or leave the program. >> i went the next 21 weeks or whatever it was. i didn't say a word. so, whatever people would notice that, why aren't you talking? i said because i'm in denial. i'm not a big therapy guy. >> was it bec...

Myself. except with you, i guess. i'm not a touchy, i'm not a feely guy. that's probably why i quit psychiatry. if you're not into feelings and emotions, and all the back story, then you ought to be doing something else. >> so in 1978, krauthammer took a government job in washington at what would become the national institute of mental health. it wasn't what he really wanted, but it put him in the right neighborhood. >> i thought, once i'm in washington, isn't that where they do politics? one thing will lead to another. >> his folks worried about their son tossing away a doctor's livelihood. b...

Of non-appearance, and he said to me, "why aren't you going to therapy?" and i said, "sir, i came here to give therapy, not to receive it." and he said to me, "you're in denial." >> [ chuckles ] >> and i said, "of course i'm in denial. denial is the greatest of all defense mechanisms. i could be a professor of denial. i mean, i'm an expert at" -- well, i was going on and on. he wasn't very amused. >> he gave krauthammer an ultimatum -- go to group therapy or leave the program. >> so i went to the next 21 weeks of sessions or whatever it was, but i didn't really say a word. so whenever people w...