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Of homeland security to unveil these new executive actions on immigration. including one that gets the ball rolling on his signature pledge, right, that pledge to build the wall. build the wall with mexico. well, we're live on the border with mexico in the town of nogales, arizona, with gadi schwartz. we saw you in the live tease just before the break. there's a fence up where you are. how effective has that been? >> this is one of those border fences. we just spoke to a man on this side of the fence. it's not particularly effective. somebody can get over this fence in about 15 seconds and he ...

60th street up to 81 as it street is where the streets are closed off and the pope is supposed to make his way down south central park west. he will be taking west drive. central park west has tens of thousands of people. there were 80,000 tickets available for people to get tickets, so essentially they were giving away two free tickets a family, and essentially 80,000 tickets available. they had some 6,000 people still lined up hoping to get in. they are not letting you in without a ticket. you cannot get in even if you are a member of the media without a special press pass escorted by police...

Because i heard him do that. >> no when they were raising their hands, or they, one of them raised his hands saying he wouldn't support the eventual nominee. that is something i would like to see a lot more in the debate. what i would like to see -- i noticed this -- i would like to see when the republicans disagree. this is why we're talking about christie and rand paul. look you can have one general question where they all distinguish themselves from the democrats. but let's hear -- let's hear what their positions are on the fence. yeah they all say, including rubio, for pete's sake and kasi...

That. did cruz not do that? >> when they were raising their hands -- they one of them raised their hands saying he wouldn't support the eventual nominee. that is something i would like to see a lot more in the debate. what i would like to see -- i noticed this -- i would like to see when the republicans disagree. this is why we're talking about christie and rand paul. you can have one question where they distinguish themselves from the democrats. let's hear what the positions are on the fence. they all say including rubio for pete's sake, and kasich talked about the ohio budget. most of them w...

That. did cruz not do that? >> when they were raising their hands -- they one of them raised their hands saying he wouldn't support the eventual nominee. that is something i would like to see a lot more in the debate. what i would like to see -- i noticed this -- i would like to see when the republicans disagree. this is why we're talking about christie and rand paul. you can have one question where they distinguish themselves from the democrats. let's hear what the positions are on the fence. they all say including rubio for pete's sake, and kasich talked about the ohio budget. most of them w...