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Of. the criminal justice system in this country is simply jacked up. it sucks for people of color to go through the system, be persecuted by the media, we see victim blaming and shaming right now, then my sheriff who i respect in richland county has to make a decision. i hope he makes the right one and terminates this individual for abuse and lack of judgment. we're going to now just send this to the fbi where even yesterday you and i had a discussion about the director of the fbi having this ferguson effect. you know, it's just a really, really bad place to be right now with our criminal just...

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The fact of the matter is the fbi director knows his theory is just a theory. most don't support it, the department of justice doesn't support it. i believe he's gone beyond speculation in a way the facts don't support. >> so you don't accept this post ferguson -- >> the ferguson effect. i'm not aware of anyone that's come forward to suggest the ferguson is in effect ferguson or anyplace else. >> you live in baltimore, that's where the naacp is head quartered. is there a post baltimore? >> we heard of this suggestion in new york. >> what about baltimore? >> there are rises in crime and when yo...

The director of the fbi seems to think so. president obama mushes back on the so-called ferguson effect ahead.

>> all right. redditt hudson and kimberly crenshaw, thank you both very much. appreciate it. still ahead, president obama addresses a conference of police chiefs pushing back on the ferguson effect. a look at whether there's data behind the alarmism. because donald trump loves trumpeting his poll numbers it until they start showing him second to ben carson. now they're "not very scientific." on the other hand, hillary shows a huge surge in polls after a strong week of campaigning. her team says the polls are wrong. we'll look at those numbers and more ahead.