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>> sean: if donald trump is wrong, that would mean that "the new york times" is wrong. >> to release information, sean, there is an ongoing investigation the president should be giving information out. that would be appropriate, turning over to congress -- >> sean: so it was meaningless when he said he did not directed? bill, let me go back to you. executive order 12333. it was revised in the final two weeks of the obama administration. eo 12333. that allows our government to literally wiretap and metadata store every phone call of every citizen, every text and email? that is your belief? >> i...

Calls, they couldn't call 931, they couldn't send -- 931, they couldn't send e-mails, credit card and atms didn't work. that area and, morgan, they don't know who's doing it. how do we figure that out? >> about a year ago, year and a half ago, remember there was the stories out in california again of 17 transformers within 19 minutes taken out by high-powered rifles. somebody was shooting these things. incidents are connected together but, jenna, it shows us the vulnerability of our critical infrastructure system. when you're on your iphone or android, it's only wireless til it gets to the rad...