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Manning, in making this embarrassing stuff available to the world. >> other part of the defense is, well, it did little or no harm. that's a lovely emotional argument but i am not sure it is a legal argument. >> absolutely it is, they have to prove he had intercourse with the enemy. there has to be some demonstration that there was harm. >> a foiled arm robbery does not arm anyone but it is still a crime. >> i'm not saying he isn't guilty of crimes, but, whether he is aiding the enemy is a crime which there are specific elements the prosecution has to show and it is not clear they have the pro...

True, right? >> the troops in the room certainly know. they are writing their field reports and all of that information coming back to washington. i think it will be a few days before there is complete clarity as to what went on in the final minutes. i'm sure some people know whether they are going to release all the details publicly remains to be seen. these navy s.e.a.l.s. have very specialized weapons and tactics of doing what they do. they don't want to release a lot of information and give away a lot of trade secrets for the next time they have to do this. barbara starr, live at the pen...

There is value in having the stuff out there. >> yes, i read a lot of the afghan field reports. i was on the fence before about afghanistan and anybody who goes through those documents has to ask more questions about the wisdom of the strategy pursued. >> otherwise just pining for a path that she is never returning. if these secrets and military fails to keep their own secrets, they should be revealed and nothing cudo. >> maybe you are right. >> i don't dispute that. but the catastrophic was them getting out. parl harbor like. if we want cooperation out of pakistan and afghanistan we blew it o...

There is value in having the stuff out there. >> yes, i read a lot of the afghan field reports. i was on the fence before about afghanistan and anybody who goes through those documents has to ask more questions about the wisdom of the strategy pursued. >> otherwise just pining for a path that she is never returning. if these secrets and military fails to keep their own secrets, they should be revealed and nothing cudo. >> maybe you are right. >> i don't dispute that. but the catastrophic was them getting out. parl harbor like. if we want cooperation out of pakistan and afghanistan we blew it o...

There is value in having the stuff out there. >> yes, i read a lot of the afghan field reports. i was on the fence before about afghanistan and anybody who goes through those documents has to ask more questions about the wisdom of the strategy pursued. >> otherwise just pining for a path that she is never returning. if these secrets and military fails to keep their own secrets, they should be revealed and nothing cudo. >> maybe you are right. >> i don't dispute that. but the catastrophic was them getting out. parl harbor like. if we want cooperation out of pakistan and afghanistan we blew it o...