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Know, it will be reversed, if you will by the courts. so i take your point. perhaps one thing we ought to look at is, what is proper under the civil service rules in terms of discipline? i found that always --. martha: i think you're right. i think you're right about that. let me ask you this. when you look at j. russell george, he says i'm trying to get answers to who the directive came from. i say to the employees when we do the investigations who asked you to go through this process this way, he said i can't get an answer. is that acceptable? what does that mean? i mean how can he not get a...

Untrained farmers can create on their own. >> the end of all this the product of course produces is young men and women who we aspire to be able to drop down into any messy situation and have them land on their feet and make progress. this is the last model. it is loaded up with like a scooter at one point, beer, a bunch of people, water maybe this far off the edge. >> a very distressed. >> very distressed. >> and they dump it all on the shore and that is the last mile. >> in ghana, he most of the emphasis is on agriculture. we're looking at cocoa, processing, and the tools that are involved. ...

>> yeah, yeah, well you know i never felt that i continue do it. i knew i had to put certain dreams and goals to the side in order to take care of certain situations that were in front of me such as a five-year sentence in prison. but just to hear from coach carroll, you know, the day after exoneration and just to see that the support and the love was still there, and the opportunity to play was still there, it was all i needed to hear to keep going and keep striving for success. martha: now you've got -- you've signed with the follow cans as i said. how is the training going? what is the feed...

Of is why you drilled those holes in those rooms. you said it was for surveillance. >> i was doing a little field work there. >> bill, you are the first and only subscriber to esquire. could this be the first article that people read from this magazine? >> i stole it from my barber shop. i don't know he knows he subscribes anymore. if we were to get the pension he would make just as much as the navy choir or the navy singers. i know they sing more than most people at 6:00 every morning. but that is a travisty. there should be a pecking order what you can make after you serve your time. they ar...

Raw tee and $fest million. go away. >> was there not a $10 million reward? >> $25. why can't he get a piece of that? >> theoretically if he had quit the seals like 10 minutes of about and then shot bin laden he would have been eligible, but you are not eligible if you are in the military. >> unacceptable. i was in the navy, old navy. >> i heard incredibly brave stories of your folding. >> folding with valor, they call it. >> and there were times you didn't know what was in that dressing room, but you heard sounds and you kicked the door in. >> i was the first one in. >> and there were no sound...