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Money. we will never be rid of it entirely. speaker pelosi's point is when you look at the programs already spending money they have already taken big cuts. inside those programs there is so much money that is wasteful and fraudulent and abusive and constant rebel every government in the history of time. >> i don't think it's a struggle. you know why i don't think it's a struggle? because i don't see any effort to do it. i think they have all just given up or they don't care. >> i think there is various types of waste. we are talking about the f-35. insanely expensive fighter plane that is sti...

Money. we will never be rid of it entirely. speaker pelosi's point is when you look at the programs already spending money they have already taken big cuts. inside those programs there is so much money that is wasteful and fraudulent and abusive and constant rebel every government in the history of time. >> i don't think it's a struggle. you know why i don't think it's a struggle? because i don't see any effort to do it. i think they have all just given up or they don't care. >> i think there is various types of waste. we are talking about the f-35. insanely expensive fighter plane that is sti...

The negotiation position of gop leaders. are we about to see a shift where the budget hawks will give a knockout to the war hawks? >> the pentagon already has been struck in year because of the sequestration cuts. there is also a strong group of both republicans and democrats who believe that the military budget should not be cut even the 4% or so that it's been cut under the sequester. it's actually less than 4%. so i'm not ready to call it a paradigm shift. you hear the nsa revelations, you have increasing discussion of drone warfare. none of which are particularly by the way large budget it...

That all of these interest groups, lobbyists, are a net handicap. look at the f-35 fighter plane, which is hugely over cost to run, yet nobody is reforming it. nobody is looking at it seriously. and we're putting together at newt gingrich productions, a whole breakout, for a series of examples that we think, for example, the budget conference that is meeting this week ought to look seriously at these new ideas and approaches. ought to recognize that we need to think our way out of the current problems, not just either cut things or raise taxes, but actually have new and better ways of doing th...

>> well, i think you need to recognize that the civil service model is gone, it is crippling us. that all of these interest groups, lobbyists, are a net handicap. look at the f-35 fighter plane, which is hugely over cost to run, yet nobody is reforming it. nobody is looking at it seriously. and we're putting together at newt gingrich productions, a whole breakout, for a series of example examples that we think, for example, the budget conference that is meeting this week ought to look seriously at these new ideas and approaches. ought to recognize that we need to think our way out of the curre...