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Thatou were fighting cuts against amtrak. isn't your history to try to moderate, both when fighting for re-election, but also as a memberof congress? to try to fd common ground and compromise? >> of course background to find compromise. that's what you have to do in order to get this done. but you don't cmpmise on your principles. i uslfare reform as an example. i -- i went out and helped author the welfare reform bill that became the contract with america bill, a then when i was in the united states senate, i managed that bl as a first-term, firsyear member of the united states senate. i went...

Stance to try to win a democratic state? >> no, not at all. today i would support laws that would provide for those exceptions. but i'm not for them. in other wds, i support the hyde amendmt. the hyde amendment provides exception for rape and incest and the life of the mother. yes, i support laws that provide those exceptions because if we can get those passe then we need to do that. but -- >> that's not a violation of your pledge? >> no. i try -- i supported th partia birth abortion ban act. does thatan all abortion no. but it moves the country in the right direction. so what i've said in the...

Democratic state? >> no, not at all. today i would support laws that would provide for those exceptions. but i'm not for them. in other wds, i support the hyde amendmt. the hyde amendment provides exception for rape and incest and the life of the mother. yes, i support laws that provide those exceptions because if we can get those passe then we need to do that. but -- >> that's not a violation of your pledge? >> no. i try -- i supported th partia birth abortion ban act. does thatan all abortion no. but it moves the country in the right direction. so what i've said in the past consistent is i'l...

No. but it moves the country in the right direction. so what i've said in the past consistently is i'll support laws that move the ball forward, that doesn't mean that's my position and that's where i'd like to go. but that's exactly the direction that we need to go in. >> the issue of moderation is -- goes beyond abortion. back in 2006 you were fighting the idea that you were seen as too conservative. you had television ads, heralding the fact that you opposed reductions in the minimum wage. that you were fighting cuts against amtrak. isn't your history to try to moderate, both when fighting ...

Fought for race to the top dollars. the same people who want this coverage opposed race to the top dollars money that could have been spent on education. many of my constituents have called. there's been a lot of news about it on talk radio here in milwaukee. a lot of people are disturbed that this is the priority. again, the question is, how does this help educate the children in the city of milwaukee and the state of wisconsin for that matter? >> greta: is the teachers' union just as aggressive in fighting cuts to teachers and improving the education of students as they are fighting for viag...