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And they're being encompass sed in a fog of war, and it's as much a notion of morale, fighting and willingness as it is the strength of your opponent. so i don't discount the ukrainians, but it is david fighting goliath, and they don't have the mobility or air power it would seem to me to confront 110 or more russian combat battalions. and by the way those battalions are well equipped and well-trained, reasonably. someone was saying they were all conscript soldiers. they are not. 80% of them are contract soldiers, and their officers have been very experienced people who fought in syria and cri...

Energized -- but wouldn't a win with the president dedicating 18 months of his first term to is justified, see, we were right, it is constitutional? wouldn't that excite the base, too? whoever comes up on the losing end of this is going to make a case for why it's a good thing, i just don't think you should believe them. >> lee, i would have said days ago david is still getting good points for fighting goliath. on meet the press yesterday, obama's senior supervisor david plouffe argued that in a few years, the president will be more supportive of this initiative. >> by the end of the decade, w...

Loss -- by a loss, i mean the court declares it unconstitutional and gets obama energized -- but wouldn't a win with the president dedicating 18 months of his first term to is justified, see, we were right, it is constitutional? wouldn't that excite the base, too? whoever comes up on the losing end of this is going to make a case for why it's a good thing, i just don't think you should believe them. >> lee, i would have said days ago david is still getting good points for fighting goliath. on meet the press yesterday, obama's senior supervisor david plouffe argued that in a few years, the pres...